it's only up to version 0.3 and there's a whole rant about one character's story having alot more to it that you will see in later updates, I'd say it's a safe bet that it's not even close to finished
okay so this looked interesting but all the ntr arguments had me needing more info, so I read the all the comments and replies that came up in a ctl+f search
from what I can tell you start developing a relationship with her and then find out that she is actively having sex with other guys, even if there is some sob story about her situation it is still 100% ntr and I'm not interested, even if she does stop being a prostitute or whatever the situation is. for me that would just leave a sour taste and the revelation would just have me nope out feeling that it would most likely get worse from there, if you're gonna have that then what else are you likely to include (especially the way the comments describe it happening of sleeping with her, not knowing what she does meaning that she's hiding the fact, and then seeing her come out of a love hotel with some other guy)
especially if what I read about 2 other (vanilla) love interests being removed to accommodate her story is true then it seems likely the story is going to go downhill rather than improve
the main thing to me is how it unfolds, if she intentionally kept you at arms length because of her situation, then it wouldn't be ntr but if she let you close without letting you know then she is intentionally cucking you, whether she wanted to, didn't care, or felt forced to
even if I've misunderstood the depth of mc's relationship with her and it's somehow just a hook-up, it feels off because if she sleeps with the mc without whatever her usual situation involves then it means she sees something special about the mc in which case it doesn't make sense as just a hook-up, and not telling him beforehand is uber mega uncool (aka ntr)
so as far as I can see your rant about it not being ntr is just wrong and you should just own up to what you've made rather than telling everyone it's not what it is, it may not be the focus but it exists and the fact that this very niche, and incredibly divisive genre is included at all should be mentioned, e.g. "this game contains elements of ntr but it is not the main focus, if you can't handle that then this game may not be for you" rather than the way you've currently done so
It's definitely a shaky situation he's created. Also you're comment made me curious enough to redownload and sift through her scenes to refresh my memory.
After redownloading and quickly sifting through some of her scenes. Especially the controversial one. I've discovered this:
The MC's relationship with her starts as a simple friendship, he's nice to her because she helped out his (nonbiological) sister and she doesn't know why as she's been bullied her whole life, mc discovers her dad is a piece of shit so he tells her she can stay the night at his apartment, the two are basically close friends at this point (There's not a single H-scene with her before this point either), she then interrogates the MC about why he's so nice to her, reveals she gets paid for sex because her dad doesn't work, she's paying the bills as well as paying for his severe alcoholism, THEN the H-scene option appears as she assumes the MC only cares about her for sex and tries to coax him into a one-night stand. No matter what you choose, a couple days later she walks out of a love hotel with a guy. Then the MC goes to see her situation for himself and also discovers that her mother died during childbirth.
So it at least gives you the option to say no to her which makes me think some of these people are exaggerating a bit because you DO know what she does before being given the option of having sex with her. Another point worth noting is that saying no to her advances gives you MORE POINTS with her than saying yes. In other words skipping the scene is "better" despite this being a porn game and everyone usually doing the opposite.
I also wouldn't say she keeps you at arms length but as close as you would keep a friend. Then randomly telling that friend a dark secret because you have no idea why they're nice to you.
It's still a very controversial choice to include it in an adult game knowing that EVERYONE hates NTR. I'm honestly just biding my time until the next update to her story so I can come to a conclusion on whether or not to dip out and forget about this game. But yeah, that's a slightly more accurate summary of this whole deal.
so if it's revealed beforehand then it's not as bad as everyone made it out to be and if it's clear that she doesn't trust you when the option comes up then it's not ntr, everyone made it seem like the reveal was a blindside and none of the "it's not ntr" crowd mentioned it (someone might have I was skimming for the most part there are alot of arguments, but if that's the case why was that not the goto defence rather than "but her story"?)
if mc knows everything and it's clear enough she doesn't trust you then it's the typical "saving a girl from forced/coerced prostitution" type story and not ntr, in which case I'll check it out, tho am curious about the supposed 2 characters removed so that she could be added, tho I have no idea if they were just proposed or if they were previously in the game and it was reworked
thanks for a coherent reply rather than most of what I read through trying to work out exactly what the whole thing was
The "2 characters removed" thing is referencing some patreon post a while ago saying something about Yuka (Mc's nonbiological sister) and Eri (Mc's ex) being moved to the side-cast. I believe it's just a rumor by the community that they were benched for Chika. Might end up being true though.
Not really removed just lowered in terms of priority and future scene count for some reason.
that's honestly a huge relive some the comments made it sound like the author benched 2 already established LIs to make room for Chika's story, which for me would have been a huge turn off for the game cause while I'm not a huge fan of Chika's story the other character definitely make up for it IMO
"if mc knows everything and it's clear enough she doesn't trust you then it's the typical "saving a girl from forced/coerced prostitution" type story and not ntr"
Nope. It's still NTR. But instead of being cucked, it's instead NeToRase.
no because the english use of the ntr tag is for when an anime/manga inspired media contains cuckoldry and you can't cuck someone when there is no relationship, sharing is generally preferred as opposed to netorase (which I've seen shortened to nts to make a distinction from ntr) since there's no confusion with ntr when that's the case and sharing requires a proper relationship, atleast fwb, otherwise it's either prostitution or a casual one off hookup neither of which would count as even sharing.
I would not count the relationship described as one close enough to consider sharing since she doesn't trust you, I might change that opinion once I actually get around to playing it
I will agree vanilla sounds like false advertising tho
There simply IS NO NTR! You might have realised that if you actually READ the story. And trust me, I personally know people like Chika and behind every single of them there is a tough story that brought them to the point of prostituting themselves! Who are you or I to judge them?
I'm not cooking anything. I simply enjoy the game without judging people. And, didn't even Jesus say: he who is without guilt shall throw the first stone? I'm no saint and I'm pretty sure, you ain't one either...
I have to say keep cooking this! I say dont listen to a single soul and keep up the hustle and make what you wanna make because this is refreshing and i see a bright future for this masterpeice in the making! I've never even left a comment before and have played 50+ avns. This was mandatory for me to let you know this is fire and excited to see where you take us! Keep it up G.💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm gonna be honest, after following all the drama for a while and looking at old posts, I'm beginning to have doubts? Lose hope? I guess "become disinterested in the game" is the right phrase here. It's cool you're trying to make some more nuanced/niche/unique characters, but uhh... That's gonna require some GOD-TIER writing. So good luck with that. Hope you can pull it off without somehow making it worse.
Also just wanna point out that Chika, kinda fits in with the whole "rescue girl" trope... Emphasis on "kinda" since that trope usually refers to homeless women/women with trauma and Chika is a step away from being homeless, there's currently not enough info to determine any trauma, and then there's.... "The Drama."
I also feel like you should find a way to write Yuka and Eri as main LI's... I mean MBML managed to find a way with some of the characters in it, so it is possible. Obviously they won't/probably won't be involved in all the criminal gang violence, but they could be emotional support for the MC or some shit? Idk, it just feels a bit cheap having them in that opening scene that basically foreshadows the MC's harem only to then announce they're no longer main LI's.
Anyways, I'm just gonna sit in the back and wait for 0.4, or whatever update continues Chika's story, before announcing my final verdict. So uhh, excuse me while I go do other things for a while... And I guess I'll be back at some point to play the update? Whenever it comes out. I don't really know what to say at the end here... So uhh... Good... Good luck... I guess? Try not to make it worse? Have fun with the GOD-TIER writing required to fix this?
Holy shit sir KS, id been putting off playing this for a bit to see where the development goes and decided to binge play it, and all i can say is PEAK. the soundtrack selection is soo on point, with the most emotional and hard hitting songs it sends it right home for me and its amazing. i love that so much effort is put into each character and i love what you do. dont listen to the haters! keep cooking KS. thanks so much for this masterpiece
Been enjoying the game, left things to stew a while back when you released 0.1, I'm glad to see that the game has kept going and in such a spectacular fashion! keep it up !!
You mentioned that we should wait for future updates to understand Chika’s story more and I get that you’re building something long-term, but I think a lot of players feel blindsided by how things played out early on. When a character has an intimate scene with the MC and then immediately sleeps with another guy the next day, it creates a sense of emotional disconnect. Not because people expect every character to be perfect or pure, but because that kind of development feels more like a betrayal than a meaningful plot twist.
This isn’t about double standards either. It’s about the emotional consistency and trust between the player and the story. Players naturally form attachments to characters, especially in a romance-driven game. When one of the main love interests acts in a way that breaks that connection so soon after being introduced, it can feel jarring and even alienating. The MC’s past isn’t really the same comparison here because the issue is about what’s happening during the story, not before it.
Also, I know you’ve said that your game isn’t for everyone and that’s fair. But it’s worth pointing out that the reaction you're seeing might not just be toxicity. It might be people feeling genuinely misled. If the game includes scenes or themes that align more with NTR, like one of the main girls sleeping with someone else after a scene with the MC, then players should be given that context upfront through proper tags. That way, people who love those themes can enjoy the game and those who aren’t into it can respectfully move on. It’s not about censoring your story, it’s about transparency so expectations are set correctly.
As for the defense around Chika’s backstory or struggles, I totally understand that there’s more to her than we currently know and I respect that you want to show a more nuanced character. But I think it’s also valid for players to still feel hurt or disappointed by how her actions affect the MC and the tone of the story, especially when it's so early in the game and emotional connections are just starting to form. A tragic backstory doesn’t automatically excuse behavior that feels like betrayal in the moment and that’s something that deserves thoughtful writing and balance.
You’ve got talent and the game clearly means a lot to you. I just hope you give players the clarity they need to engage with it in good faith.
Keep cooking, just maybe give it a taste yourself before serving it to others.
Y'all in the comments r making a fuss for nothing which shows how unemployed people can be. The game is still not finished and people r here complaining over a character being a whore or watsoever. Ik it's ur personal opinion on what u think of the game but it is my opinion too that y'all should not judge the game so soon and let the author do his work type shi💔💔
of course you can't fathom, you're severely lacking in brain cells. Maybe if you aren't thinking with you balls, you'd understand the story and how broken the character is
im going to use my right to have an opinion by saying that your uneducated unemployed moms basement dwelling dumb ass should go touch grass and get a life.
just by reading a few comments and related context from the developer tells me that you just want to pick a fight because one girl isnt exclusive to the MC in this game due to reasons related to her story as a character (this story type is quite common irl if you didnt already realize).
so either stfu and play the game or dont play it and move on.
nah, i just cant stand fools who hate just for the sake of hating.
take the illogical and vastly irrational words found in cancel culture, then dilute it a fair bit so it is at least somewhat logical, then slap on some fact searching and some decent arguments...
that is close to what we have here when people hate on an indie game dev who is still actively working on a game.
we the community who consume these games are what makes or breaks indie game devs and should never hate them just for a difference in opinions and/or the way the game is designed.
and hey, at least this game has actual effort being put into it instead of making every single part of it AI generated. too many people are doing that for everything including the visuals. AI is a creative utility, not a replacement for actual talent and hard work
The MC is literally messing with multiple women. Why does it bother you so that there's a woman in the cast who also "messes with other guys"? (If you actually read the story, you'd be given all the necessary context why she is the way she is.)
Damn, touch grass. Imagine getting this mad over a 3D porn game
Is it jst me or our mc looks abit like Sanz from Ateez???😭😭 Anyways I luv tis game thanks to the dev for their hardwork n dedication into makin it a masterpiece❤❤
Honestly, idk what people are even talking about. I'm not a proffesional game reviewer, but it takes less then 2 braincells to realise that this game is awesome. I really can't wait for 0.4!!
The dev has to be a woman, baseless rape accusations, whore characters in a self-proclaimed vanilla harem game I have more respect for a fucking bank robber than a whore add the NTR tag and stop wasting people's time with this fake harem.
... exactly. This is why I don't engage with most critics on this page. They have ONE thing they're mad at which is totally optional, and to pad out any lack of substance in their complaint they just make shit straight up and publicly infer what they want to believe but have no proof for. All because they've got nothing better to do.
I've actually seen people write about this same, exact complaint in an intellectually honest and civil, polite manner. It IS possible, but some people either can't or won't adjust the imagined size of their penis. Anyway, I'm out.
Hey moron should remove s in your name it's more accurate. The baseless rape was the very start of the game you literally save the girl and Yaezaki where she snaps a picture and blackmails you. We get it.You love that Chika is a whore and you see no wrong with the dev adding NTR content and lying that people are making shit up. You're the only one trying to tell people lies.
1. I completely forgot about that blackmail part at the beginning of the game that threw me off when I saw it. thanks for jogging my memory.
2. while I 100% agree with you on the Chika point in fact im just not even gonna pursue her anymore, It should be pointed out that A. its not NTR because there is no romantic and exclusive relationship between the MC and her. and B. from a dev POV its hard to justify tagging this game as NTR since thats the only instance of any of the love interests having relations with another man so for people who like NTR they will be sorely misguided if they download this game with the expectations of there being actual NTR content.
3. this doesn't pertain to just you but i see a lot of hostility towards the dev and their supporters and vice versa and if the direction that the dev is taking Chika turns you off the game that much I don't see how hard it is to just say "hey not a fan of the direction of the game i don't plan on playing it going forward" and then just deleting the game, there are plenty of games out there that are exactly what you're looking for
I just wanna touch on #3 I think the dev deserves everything they're getting. They straight up lied to the player base. This game was marketed as vanilla harem. Having a love interest fucking everyone in town isn't a vanilla harem game. Basically they're trying to parade this around like it's something it's not. I think the people reading the comments should have a right to know what they're getting into, aka, NTR.
Chika was a side girl in the beginning. The dev removed 2 LI's to make room for a whore as a LI. I think everyone should be mad about that.
NTR just means stolen from you, there doesnt need to be a monogamous or even any sexual relationship for it to be NTR or 2/3th of all NTR would stop being NTR, Mothers are getting stolen, Childhood friends getiing stolen, because MC is too dense to see that she loves him etc etc. Not a single one of those scenarios needs a sexual relationship just that the Protag knows the girl.
MC can even have sex with Chika before he knows shes a whore and even if they have sex, she still sleeps with her customer later and gets found out by MC by pure chance.
can't reply to poor schmuckpuppet, maybe he got suspended? Anyway, I said I was out, but here's my retort. Have a good day, kid.
-- Ohh, that's your "rape accusation".
The character you're referring to snapped a picture of the MC in a compromising position in which he'd accidentally ended up while trying to save a drugged girl from a bunch of thugs. At that moment, said character had thought he was one of them.... After they saved the girl together, she told him she'd show the picture to others if he didn't keep her secret crime-fighting identity a secret, as a way of ensuring his cooperation. That's not a rape-accusation; it's insurance against an unexpected 3rd party she didn't know well enough to trust in a high-stakes situation. Furthermore, she clearly knows she doesn't NEED to use that nuclear option, since the mere threat of it leverages his silence. And if you kept playing the game after that, you know it doesn't take long for her to trust him with her secret.
So, you're accusing others of lying while refusing to add relevant nuance yourself. So much for the public service.
As I said, Smoron. Blackmailed with a rape accusation. I get it. You absolutely love the game and like to steer players towards it.
You are trying to make light of the situation which is a huge disservice.
I simply explained what it was. You trying to spin it like it's ok that she blackmailed and threatened the MC after he saved them both is pretty crazy. The strawman you're trying to use is amazing.
Have a good one and take care. I hope you enjoy Chika's story. I'm going to apologize to you and Kzlkdang2000. I was very frustrated with the way the game turned out. I used to sub until this whole Chika shit and it really did upset me and taking it out on people in the comments was wrong. I still think it's NTR to have a LI fucking other guys.
I think players should know what is going on with her prior to playing the game because a Prostitute LI really isn't Vanilla or Romance.
Like I said. I apologize and shouldn't of acted that way towards anyone.
Dude, I'm not trying to steer anyone toward it. I'm just on the page people have already steered toward, defending it from accusations that seemed to me petty at best.
I played through the scenes we're referring to again to be sure, and there are a couple things I want to point out: Neither Ayase nor the MC really won the fight against the thugs. Both were in a rough spot until her backup arrived and saved them. I kinda misremembered this, same as you I think.
After the fight, yeah, she blackmails him after apologizing for attacking him. Nothing disputed, but we obviously disagree on whether that was justified. I still don't define that as a rape accusation in and of itself, because the accusation has not been made. And that's exactly what was said in OP.
I appreciate the apology. Any ad hominems I directed toward you I felt were retaliation, and I'm sorry for them. I think this game has a lot of potential and I saw your criticism as being blown out of proportion. But now I understand that you were ranting from a place of honesty, even if I disagree with... pretty much everything. And that's better than trolling. Hope you will come back to it later and have a better impression.
As far as Chika, I'll probably keep adding points to her route and see where it goes. Like I said elsewhere, actually staying platonic with her at first does this. (It actually reminds me of Jack's romance route from Mass Effect 2.) But she's not best girl by any means. I would actually hope that the MC can end up in a monogamous relationship with her if things go right. I'm not particularly worried the dev will lock the player into anything with her that they don't choose (especially after her mixed reception here). Of course, I can't know what her story will be.
That doesn't make it better. This is supposed to be an LI. Which self-respecting MC would ever trust her enough to form a relationship after that?? When she first tried to kill him and then blackmail him. And apparently, her making breakfast after that is supposed to make up for it??
it's funny how people react to Chika while she is one of the girls who has been developed lately. Her Story is still undone, if you read this comments, please ignore other comments. Other girls are not relate to the argument. Comeback when you've done playing 0.3, until then you have no right to jugde this game or KS.
Don't listen to this moron. Chika is a main love interest who is a whore. You have sex with her and the next day you watch her come out of a love hotel with another dude. THIS IS A NTR GAME.
well the girl below also in the same situation, is she a dirty whore too ? You focus on judging Chika and don't even give a fuck about why she do that. did you even play to the end of 0.3 ? She slept with other men, but this game is not talking about it. The MC want to help her, not jugde her because of prostitution. People can be better and they need chance in order to do it. This is not a normal game because the dev has the guts to bring this sensitive topic to one of his characters, if you don't want to play it, don't visit this game page, you can call me crazy, but don't stop people from a good game.
Yep. She's a whore. That's literally what they do. Fuck men for money. Shut the fuck up cuck. Guts? More like a fucking scummy bait and switch. Having your MAIN LOVE INTEREST FUCK OTHER MEN IS NOT VANILLA HAREM. IT'S NTR. What part of that doesn't your moronic ass understand. Doesn't matter the reason because the dev tries to do the same old shit other harems games tried and failed to do adding some bullshit sob story to try to make you feel sorry for the LI so you won't care she's been filled with hundreds of mens semen. She's still fucking the whole fucking town. I will stop people from playing this NTR/Cuck game because they read the genre and think they're getting a nice vanilla harem game then turn around and find out she's fucking everyone. Also even if you don't fuck her, you still get to see her coming out of a love hotel right after getting plowed. You're the reason people get baited and switched because you think it's ok to sit in your cuck chair in the corner watching your LI's getting fucked in front of you.
Lemme get this straight. Your Love interest is fucking other dudes and you think this isn't NTR? Hahahahahaha wow. Chika is a whore. Fucking other men. She replaced 2 other LI's so the dev could add NTR. There isn't anything special about her story. Nothing to feel sorry for. She could of left, told the people at school what was happening but instead she kept doing what she was doing because she quite clearly enjoys it.
I do love me some grade A cucks. This dev said it was a vanilla harem game. It's not. Once you add 1 girl getting fucked by multiple dudes, who is a love interest, it's NTR. Also she doesn't have to fuck someone in front of you to be NTR. She comes out a love hotel with another guy after getting fucked. That's still NTR. If other people can handle her past they're into getting cucked. There is this great saying. Can't turn a hoe into a housewife.
The dev decided to add this hoe and removed 2 other LI's because they're into NTR no matter what way they try to spin it. This isn't a Vanilla Harem that they said the game would be. It's Harem/NTR/NTS.
Author, I think you need to keep your thoughts alive. You are writing a great work and don't change your own perspective just because you want others to. We will silently support you.
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Anyone here please tell me how do i unlock ayase's scenes? Ive repeated the game multiple times and just cant unlock it
The first ayase scene? If it is then you should have pick her do the cat pose when you have a first meeting with her then you can unlock all her scene
Just pick the best thing you should do with/to her if you will make a choice
Just asking. Is the main story/ LI's side stories finished, cause I don't want to start the game only to know later that I must wait for an update.
it's only up to version 0.3 and there's a whole rant about one character's story having alot more to it that you will see in later updates, I'd say it's a safe bet that it's not even close to finished
Welp.. that's upsetting. Thanks for info.
how to unlock the scene after drunk and wild?
okay so this looked interesting but all the ntr arguments had me needing more info, so I read the all the comments and replies that came up in a ctl+f search
from what I can tell you start developing a relationship with her and then find out that she is actively having sex with other guys, even if there is some sob story about her situation it is still 100% ntr and I'm not interested, even if she does stop being a prostitute or whatever the situation is. for me that would just leave a sour taste and the revelation would just have me nope out feeling that it would most likely get worse from there, if you're gonna have that then what else are you likely to include (especially the way the comments describe it happening of sleeping with her, not knowing what she does meaning that she's hiding the fact, and then seeing her come out of a love hotel with some other guy)
especially if what I read about 2 other (vanilla) love interests being removed to accommodate her story is true then it seems likely the story is going to go downhill rather than improve
the main thing to me is how it unfolds, if she intentionally kept you at arms length because of her situation, then it wouldn't be ntr but if she let you close without letting you know then she is intentionally cucking you, whether she wanted to, didn't care, or felt forced to
even if I've misunderstood the depth of mc's relationship with her and it's somehow just a hook-up, it feels off because if she sleeps with the mc without whatever her usual situation involves then it means she sees something special about the mc in which case it doesn't make sense as just a hook-up, and not telling him beforehand is uber mega uncool (aka ntr)
so as far as I can see your rant about it not being ntr is just wrong and you should just own up to what you've made rather than telling everyone it's not what it is, it may not be the focus but it exists and the fact that this very niche, and incredibly divisive genre is included at all should be mentioned, e.g. "this game contains elements of ntr but it is not the main focus, if you can't handle that then this game may not be for you" rather than the way you've currently done so
It's definitely a shaky situation he's created. Also you're comment made me curious enough to redownload and sift through her scenes to refresh my memory.
After redownloading and quickly sifting through some of her scenes. Especially the controversial one. I've discovered this:
The MC's relationship with her starts as a simple friendship, he's nice to her because she helped out his (nonbiological) sister and she doesn't know why as she's been bullied her whole life, mc discovers her dad is a piece of shit so he tells her she can stay the night at his apartment, the two are basically close friends at this point (There's not a single H-scene with her before this point either), she then interrogates the MC about why he's so nice to her, reveals she gets paid for sex because her dad doesn't work, she's paying the bills as well as paying for his severe alcoholism, THEN the H-scene option appears as she assumes the MC only cares about her for sex and tries to coax him into a one-night stand. No matter what you choose, a couple days later she walks out of a love hotel with a guy. Then the MC goes to see her situation for himself and also discovers that her mother died during childbirth.
So it at least gives you the option to say no to her which makes me think some of these people are exaggerating a bit because you DO know what she does before being given the option of having sex with her. Another point worth noting is that saying no to her advances gives you MORE POINTS with her than saying yes. In other words skipping the scene is "better" despite this being a porn game and everyone usually doing the opposite.
I also wouldn't say she keeps you at arms length but as close as you would keep a friend. Then randomly telling that friend a dark secret because you have no idea why they're nice to you.
It's still a very controversial choice to include it in an adult game knowing that EVERYONE hates NTR. I'm honestly just biding my time until the next update to her story so I can come to a conclusion on whether or not to dip out and forget about this game. But yeah, that's a slightly more accurate summary of this whole deal.
so if it's revealed beforehand then it's not as bad as everyone made it out to be and if it's clear that she doesn't trust you when the option comes up then it's not ntr, everyone made it seem like the reveal was a blindside and none of the "it's not ntr" crowd mentioned it (someone might have I was skimming for the most part there are alot of arguments, but if that's the case why was that not the goto defence rather than "but her story"?)
if mc knows everything and it's clear enough she doesn't trust you then it's the typical "saving a girl from forced/coerced prostitution" type story and not ntr, in which case I'll check it out, tho am curious about the supposed 2 characters removed so that she could be added, tho I have no idea if they were just proposed or if they were previously in the game and it was reworked
thanks for a coherent reply rather than most of what I read through trying to work out exactly what the whole thing was
No problem. I'm happy to help.
The "2 characters removed" thing is referencing some patreon post a while ago saying something about Yuka (Mc's nonbiological sister) and Eri (Mc's ex) being moved to the side-cast. I believe it's just a rumor by the community that they were benched for Chika. Might end up being true though.
Not really removed just lowered in terms of priority and future scene count for some reason.
that's honestly a huge relive some the comments made it sound like the author benched 2 already established LIs to make room for Chika's story, which for me would have been a huge turn off for the game cause while I'm not a huge fan of Chika's story the other character definitely make up for it IMO
"if mc knows everything and it's clear enough she doesn't trust you then it's the typical "saving a girl from forced/coerced prostitution" type story and not ntr"
Nope. It's still NTR. But instead of being cucked, it's instead NeToRase.
Which is an NTR tag. Which is still missing.
no because the english use of the ntr tag is for when an anime/manga inspired media contains cuckoldry and you can't cuck someone when there is no relationship, sharing is generally preferred as opposed to netorase (which I've seen shortened to nts to make a distinction from ntr) since there's no confusion with ntr when that's the case and sharing requires a proper relationship, atleast fwb, otherwise it's either prostitution or a casual one off hookup neither of which would count as even sharing.
I would not count the relationship described as one close enough to consider sharing since she doesn't trust you, I might change that opinion once I actually get around to playing it
I will agree vanilla sounds like false advertising tho
4 months later. And the NTR tags are still missing. Smh
There simply IS NO NTR! You might have realised that if you actually READ the story. And trust me, I personally know people like Chika and behind every single of them there is a tough story that brought them to the point of prostituting themselves! Who are you or I to judge them?
Is this game tagged as VANILLA harem?
Does it have prostitute LI?
Stop shitting on my plate and calling it a brownie. I'm not eating what you're cooking.
I'm not cooking anything. I simply enjoy the game without judging people. And, didn't even Jesus say: he who is without guilt shall throw the first stone? I'm no saint and I'm pretty sure, you ain't one either...
Where did i judge anyone?
Also give the definition of NTR.
单细胞生物就闭嘴 byd自由选项 不喜欢就别选那条线不就行 是你的脑子不支持你做其他线路吗孩子 做了又要嗷嗷叫 纠结牛魔妓女不妓女 你这种得拿机枪扫 放古代就得浸猪笼 你知道的 赞助是没有的 白嫖是一定的 白嫖还要指指点点孩子你这辈子有了
支持孔子
我想看看有没有人提到0.3结尾小剧场的joss的游戏是什么，发现大伙都在讨论千佳，我认为在一个可选路线的免费H游里加入一个“可能"是“妓女"的角色是完全允许的，在我玩的某个游戏里，你甚至可以攻略女友的奶奶，我不认为这有什么问题，只是这不在我的癖好里，所以我没有选择与她建立恋爱关系。当然，合理表达意见和喜好是可以的，只是为什么要主动选择与自己不喜好的角色建立亲密关系然后把自己破防，在评论区到处出警呢。
所以有人知道0.3结尾的客串角色是哪个游戏的吗，谢谢各位
Any updates?
Please upvote this petition to change miharu's hair into this
Not that ugly ass ponytail
I have to say keep cooking this! I say dont listen to a single soul and keep up the hustle and make what you wanna make because this is refreshing and i see a bright future for this masterpeice in the making! I've never even left a comment before and have played 50+ avns. This was mandatory for me to let you know this is fire and excited to see where you take us! Keep it up G.💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm gonna be honest, after following all the drama for a while and looking at old posts, I'm beginning to have doubts? Lose hope? I guess "become disinterested in the game" is the right phrase here. It's cool you're trying to make some more nuanced/niche/unique characters, but uhh... That's gonna require some GOD-TIER writing. So good luck with that. Hope you can pull it off without somehow making it worse.
Also just wanna point out that Chika, kinda fits in with the whole "rescue girl" trope... Emphasis on "kinda" since that trope usually refers to homeless women/women with trauma and Chika is a step away from being homeless, there's currently not enough info to determine any trauma, and then there's.... "The Drama."
I also feel like you should find a way to write Yuka and Eri as main LI's... I mean MBML managed to find a way with some of the characters in it, so it is possible. Obviously they won't/probably won't be involved in all the criminal gang violence, but they could be emotional support for the MC or some shit? Idk, it just feels a bit cheap having them in that opening scene that basically foreshadows the MC's harem only to then announce they're no longer main LI's.
Anyways, I'm just gonna sit in the back and wait for 0.4, or whatever update continues Chika's story, before announcing my final verdict. So uhh, excuse me while I go do other things for a while... And I guess I'll be back at some point to play the update? Whenever it comes out. I don't really know what to say at the end here... So uhh... Good... Good luck... I guess? Try not to make it worse? Have fun with the GOD-TIER writing required to fix this?
Ehh, good enough.
太棒了
keep up! hope to have 0.4 soon, love all of them and u too KS
Come on!We have been waiting patiently for your finished product!🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Keep cooking. Don't mind the losers.
这游戏的剧情让我很投入，我很享受这么棒的游戏，感谢KS，我也在爱发电赞助了KS，往后更新我会继续赞助的
I'm so desperate to get the right story, how to get ayase scene can someone help me? Please
Holy shit sir KS, id been putting off playing this for a bit to see where the development goes and decided to binge play it, and all i can say is PEAK. the soundtrack selection is soo on point, with the most emotional and hard hitting songs it sends it right home for me and its amazing. i love that so much effort is put into each character and i love what you do. dont listen to the haters! keep cooking KS. thanks so much for this masterpiece
Hey KawaiiSukebe!
Been enjoying the game, left things to stew a while back when you released 0.1, I'm glad to see that the game has kept going and in such a spectacular fashion! keep it up !!
You mentioned that we should wait for future updates to understand Chika’s story more and I get that you’re building something long-term, but I think a lot of players feel blindsided by how things played out early on. When a character has an intimate scene with the MC and then immediately sleeps with another guy the next day, it creates a sense of emotional disconnect. Not because people expect every character to be perfect or pure, but because that kind of development feels more like a betrayal than a meaningful plot twist.
This isn’t about double standards either. It’s about the emotional consistency and trust between the player and the story. Players naturally form attachments to characters, especially in a romance-driven game. When one of the main love interests acts in a way that breaks that connection so soon after being introduced, it can feel jarring and even alienating. The MC’s past isn’t really the same comparison here because the issue is about what’s happening during the story, not before it.
Also, I know you’ve said that your game isn’t for everyone and that’s fair. But it’s worth pointing out that the reaction you're seeing might not just be toxicity. It might be people feeling genuinely misled. If the game includes scenes or themes that align more with NTR, like one of the main girls sleeping with someone else after a scene with the MC, then players should be given that context upfront through proper tags. That way, people who love those themes can enjoy the game and those who aren’t into it can respectfully move on. It’s not about censoring your story, it’s about transparency so expectations are set correctly.
As for the defense around Chika’s backstory or struggles, I totally understand that there’s more to her than we currently know and I respect that you want to show a more nuanced character. But I think it’s also valid for players to still feel hurt or disappointed by how her actions affect the MC and the tone of the story, especially when it's so early in the game and emotional connections are just starting to form. A tragic backstory doesn’t automatically excuse behavior that feels like betrayal in the moment and that’s something that deserves thoughtful writing and balance.
You’ve got talent and the game clearly means a lot to you. I just hope you give players the clarity they need to engage with it in good faith.
Keep cooking, just maybe give it a taste yourself before serving it to others.
extremely well put, this articulates my issues with the story perfectly.
Y'all in the comments r making a fuss for nothing which shows how unemployed people can be. The game is still not finished and people r here complaining over a character being a whore or watsoever. Ik it's ur personal opinion on what u think of the game but it is my opinion too that y'all should not judge the game so soon and let the author do his work type shi💔💔
"What I can say is that this is not a NTR game, and is vanilla."
yeah nothing screams vanilla than having an active whore in the cast that fucks other dudes after she slept with the MC.
I can't fathom how a Cuck brain interprets reality.
Edit: also romance tag? stop the cap bruv
of course you can't fathom, you're severely lacking in brain cells. Maybe if you aren't thinking with you balls, you'd understand the story and how broken the character is
yeah i know you would see your mom in her and emphasise, sorry that we dont all come from broken homes with street-working moms like you?
im going to use my right to have an opinion by saying that your uneducated unemployed moms basement dwelling dumb ass should go touch grass and get a life.
just by reading a few comments and related context from the developer tells me that you just want to pick a fight because one girl isnt exclusive to the MC in this game due to reasons related to her story as a character (this story type is quite common irl if you didnt already realize).
so either stfu and play the game or dont play it and move on.
a self-report from a furrie pfp, you don't even try to beat the allegations, do you?
nah, i just cant stand fools who hate just for the sake of hating.
take the illogical and vastly irrational words found in cancel culture, then dilute it a fair bit so it is at least somewhat logical, then slap on some fact searching and some decent arguments...
that is close to what we have here when people hate on an indie game dev who is still actively working on a game.
we the community who consume these games are what makes or breaks indie game devs and should never hate them just for a difference in opinions and/or the way the game is designed.
and hey, at least this game has actual effort being put into it instead of making every single part of it AI generated. too many people are doing that for everything including the visuals. AI is a creative utility, not a replacement for actual talent and hard work
The MC is literally messing with multiple women. Why does it bother you so that there's a woman in the cast who also "messes with other guys"? (If you actually read the story, you'd be given all the necessary context why she is the way she is.)
Damn, touch grass. Imagine getting this mad over a 3D porn game
Is it jst me or our mc looks abit like Sanz from Ateez???😭😭 Anyways I luv tis game thanks to the dev for their hardwork n dedication into makin it a masterpiece❤❤
Patiently waiting for next update<3
Honestly, idk what people are even talking about. I'm not a proffesional game reviewer, but it takes less then 2 braincells to realise that this game is awesome. I really can't wait for 0.4!!
Most beautiful game ever. It´s easily in my top 3
Great work! Real diamond in the rough. Looking forward to the next update!
Just came here to try this game but I didn't know that someone is crying in the comments because there's no one agreeing with him/her.
Yep. Seriously, can't they just enjoy the game? It’s a 🌽 game, not a debate. Plus it's still enjoyable. Right?
Yeah, if you dislike the game just don't comment or at least don't insult the hard work that the author put into developing the game.
agreed, though i enjoy pissing off those types since watching them grasp at straws makes me laugh.
though, maybe im just a tiny bit evil for enjoying bullying bullies and incendiary fools
为什么你的游戏会显示危险
The dev has to be a woman, baseless rape accusations, whore characters in a self-proclaimed vanilla harem game I have more respect for a fucking bank robber than a whore add the NTR tag and stop wasting people's time with this fake harem.
i havent played this in a while, what was the baseless rape accusation.
... exactly. This is why I don't engage with most critics on this page. They have ONE thing they're mad at which is totally optional, and to pad out any lack of substance in their complaint they just make shit straight up and publicly infer what they want to believe but have no proof for. All because they've got nothing better to do.
I've actually seen people write about this same, exact complaint in an intellectually honest and civil, polite manner. It IS possible, but some people either can't or won't adjust the imagined size of their penis.
Anyway, I'm out.
Hey moron should remove s in your name it's more accurate. The baseless rape was the very start of the game you literally save the girl and Yaezaki where she snaps a picture and blackmails you. We get it.You love that Chika is a whore and you see no wrong with the dev adding NTR content and lying that people are making shit up. You're the only one trying to tell people lies.
1. I completely forgot about that blackmail part at the beginning of the game that threw me off when I saw it. thanks for jogging my memory.
2. while I 100% agree with you on the Chika point in fact im just not even gonna pursue her anymore, It should be pointed out that A. its not NTR because there is no romantic and exclusive relationship between the MC and her. and B. from a dev POV its hard to justify tagging this game as NTR since thats the only instance of any of the love interests having relations with another man so for people who like NTR they will be sorely misguided if they download this game with the expectations of there being actual NTR content.
3. this doesn't pertain to just you but i see a lot of hostility towards the dev and their supporters and vice versa and if the direction that the dev is taking Chika turns you off the game that much I don't see how hard it is to just say "hey not a fan of the direction of the game i don't plan on playing it going forward" and then just deleting the game, there are plenty of games out there that are exactly what you're looking for
I just wanna touch on #3 I think the dev deserves everything they're getting. They straight up lied to the player base. This game was marketed as vanilla harem. Having a love interest fucking everyone in town isn't a vanilla harem game. Basically they're trying to parade this around like it's something it's not. I think the people reading the comments should have a right to know what they're getting into, aka, NTR.
Chika was a side girl in the beginning. The dev removed 2 LI's to make room for a whore as a LI. I think everyone should be mad about that.
not to have a go at you but your #2 is BS
NTR just means stolen from you, there doesnt need to be a monogamous or even any sexual relationship for it to be NTR or 2/3th of all NTR would stop being NTR, Mothers are getting stolen, Childhood friends getiing stolen, because MC is too dense to see that she loves him etc etc. Not a single one of those scenarios needs a sexual relationship just that the Protag knows the girl.
MC can even have sex with Chika before he knows shes a whore and even if they have sex, she still sleeps with her customer later and gets found out by MC by pure chance.
can't reply to poor schmuckpuppet, maybe he got suspended?
Anyway, I said I was out, but here's my retort. Have a good day, kid.
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Ohh, that's your "rape accusation".
The character you're referring to snapped a picture of the MC in a compromising position in which he'd accidentally ended up while trying to save a drugged girl from a bunch of thugs. At that moment, said character had thought he was one of them.... After they saved the girl together, she told him she'd show the picture to others if he didn't keep her secret crime-fighting identity a secret, as a way of ensuring his cooperation. That's not a rape-accusation; it's insurance against an unexpected 3rd party she didn't know well enough to trust in a high-stakes situation. Furthermore, she clearly knows she doesn't NEED to use that nuclear option, since the mere threat of it leverages his silence. And if you kept playing the game after that, you know it doesn't take long for her to trust him with her secret.
So, you're accusing others of lying while refusing to add relevant nuance yourself. So much for the public service.
As I said, Smoron. Blackmailed with a rape accusation. I get it. You absolutely love the game and like to steer players towards it.
You are trying to make light of the situation which is a huge disservice.
I simply explained what it was. You trying to spin it like it's ok that she blackmailed and threatened the MC after he saved them both is pretty crazy. The strawman you're trying to use is amazing.
Have a good one and take care. I hope you enjoy Chika's story. I'm going to apologize to you and Kzlkdang2000. I was very frustrated with the way the game turned out. I used to sub until this whole Chika shit and it really did upset me and taking it out on people in the comments was wrong. I still think it's NTR to have a LI fucking other guys.
I think players should know what is going on with her prior to playing the game because a Prostitute LI really isn't Vanilla or Romance.
Like I said. I apologize and shouldn't of acted that way towards anyone.
Dude, I'm not trying to steer anyone toward it. I'm just on the page people have already steered toward, defending it from accusations that seemed to me petty at best.
I played through the scenes we're referring to again to be sure, and there are a couple things I want to point out:
Neither Ayase nor the MC really won the fight against the thugs. Both were in a rough spot until her backup arrived and saved them. I kinda misremembered this, same as you I think.
After the fight, yeah, she blackmails him after apologizing for attacking him. Nothing disputed, but we obviously disagree on whether that was justified. I still don't define that as a rape accusation in and of itself, because the accusation has not been made. And that's exactly what was said in OP.
I appreciate the apology. Any ad hominems I directed toward you I felt were retaliation, and I'm sorry for them. I think this game has a lot of potential and I saw your criticism as being blown out of proportion. But now I understand that you were ranting from a place of honesty, even if I disagree with... pretty much everything. And that's better than trolling. Hope you will come back to it later and have a better impression.
As far as Chika, I'll probably keep adding points to her route and see where it goes. Like I said elsewhere, actually staying platonic with her at first does this. (It actually reminds me of Jack's romance route from Mass Effect 2.) But she's not best girl by any means. I would actually hope that the MC can end up in a monogamous relationship with her if things go right. I'm not particularly worried the dev will lock the player into anything with her that they don't choose (especially after her mixed reception here). Of course, I can't know what her story will be.
That doesn't make it better. This is supposed to be an LI. Which self-respecting MC would ever trust her enough to form a relationship after that?? When she first tried to kill him and then blackmail him. And apparently, her making breakfast after that is supposed to make up for it??
hey, look guys! this fool is projecting lmao
it's funny how people react to Chika while she is one of the girls who has been developed lately. Her Story is still undone, if you read this comments, please ignore other comments. Other girls are not relate to the argument. Comeback when you've done playing 0.3, until then you have no right to jugde this game or KS.
THIS IS NOT A NTR GAME
Don't listen to this moron. Chika is a main love interest who is a whore. You have sex with her and the next day you watch her come out of a love hotel with another dude. THIS IS A NTR GAME.
you can NOT fuck her, then she is a normal girl in the story, do you understand ?
well the girl below also in the same situation, is she a dirty whore too ? You focus on judging Chika and don't even give a fuck about why she do that. did you even play to the end of 0.3 ? She slept with other men, but this game is not talking about it. The MC want to help her, not jugde her because of prostitution. People can be better and they need chance in order to do it. This is not a normal game because the dev has the guts to bring this sensitive topic to one of his characters, if you don't want to play it, don't visit this game page, you can call me crazy, but don't stop people from a good game.
Yep. She's a whore. That's literally what they do. Fuck men for money. Shut the fuck up cuck. Guts? More like a fucking scummy bait and switch. Having your MAIN LOVE INTEREST FUCK OTHER MEN IS NOT VANILLA HAREM. IT'S NTR. What part of that doesn't your moronic ass understand. Doesn't matter the reason because the dev tries to do the same old shit other harems games tried and failed to do adding some bullshit sob story to try to make you feel sorry for the LI so you won't care she's been filled with hundreds of mens semen. She's still fucking the whole fucking town. I will stop people from playing this NTR/Cuck game because they read the genre and think they're getting a nice vanilla harem game then turn around and find out she's fucking everyone. Also even if you don't fuck her, you still get to see her coming out of a love hotel right after getting plowed. You're the reason people get baited and switched because you think it's ok to sit in your cuck chair in the corner watching your LI's getting fucked in front of you.
Lemme get this straight. Your Love interest is fucking other dudes and you think this isn't NTR? Hahahahahaha wow. Chika is a whore. Fucking other men. She replaced 2 other LI's so the dev could add NTR. There isn't anything special about her story. Nothing to feel sorry for. She could of left, told the people at school what was happening but instead she kept doing what she was doing because she quite clearly enjoys it.
I do love me some grade A cucks. This dev said it was a vanilla harem game. It's not. Once you add 1 girl getting fucked by multiple dudes, who is a love interest, it's NTR. Also she doesn't have to fuck someone in front of you to be NTR. She comes out a love hotel with another guy after getting fucked. That's still NTR. If other people can handle her past they're into getting cucked. There is this great saying. Can't turn a hoe into a housewife.
The dev decided to add this hoe and removed 2 other LI's because they're into NTR no matter what way they try to spin it. This isn't a Vanilla Harem that they said the game would be. It's Harem/NTR/NTS.
"You can't handle her past" doesn't really apply when it's about her present...
Man, it's always fun to watch a clown parade around not knowing the difference between cheating and NTR.
1. Is Chika a Love interest?
2. Is Chika a whore?
3. Is Chika fucking other men while being a love interest in a "vanilla harem" game that this is promoted as?
OK cuck.
Eldest brotherRequest UpdateYour story is perfect.
求你快更新。我给你爱发电
When will be new update?
我看评论区都在讨论妓女这个问题，我自己玩下来没啥感觉，可能是我对那个女生没有感觉吧，只是单纯感觉很可怜，看KS能不能写好吧，尽量别让喜欢这个女生的人失望😔，另外，这个建模和画面真的很好看，如果剧情再好点就无敌了。
不过这个简中翻译有点台湾腔感觉怪怪的，有一些名次真的一时间读不懂，比如三小，是表示惊讶之类的吗？感觉一直在用
Author, I think you need to keep your thoughts alive. You are writing a great work and don't change your own perspective just because you want others to. We will silently support you.