Here's my suggestion. I hope the protagonist can be more proactive. Make unexpected moves towards the heroines to make them feel flustered. Overall, the male - lead still seems too wooden.
Will say, quibbles with a certain convo, cops would never let Vigilantes pass, they would likely go after them harder than other criminals.
Cops have to be the top thugs, it is basically their entire reason for existence, the state maintains a monopoly on violence, all violence, even criminal violence, is answerable to the state (as they maintain the right to stop it). This is only true if cops are the top of the civil violence food chain, if someone steps in and does the cops work, then all of the civilians would start asking reasonable questions like "why do the cops get so much funding" and "why can't we, do the cops job, but better with actual community interests in mind?".
So no, cops wouldn't let Vigilantes go because they get the work done, especially not flashy vigilantes that specifically do their work, cops would rather no one do their work, if they aren't doing it.
P.S: WHY THE FUCK IS THE JAPANESE GIRL IMPORTING A NISSAN FROM THE US, ITS A JAPANESE CAR.
i finish the game.. its good.. i love the story.. the music.. and the charater.. cant wait to next chapter.. i hope it didt take to loong.. cant wait to play..
it's only up to version 0.3 and there's a whole rant about one character's story having alot more to it that you will see in later updates, I'd say it's a safe bet that it's not even close to finished
okay so this looked interesting but all the ntr arguments had me needing more info, so I read the all the comments and replies that came up in a ctl+f search
from what I can tell you start developing a relationship with her and then find out that she is actively having sex with other guys, even if there is some sob story about her situation it is still 100% ntr and I'm not interested, even if she does stop being a prostitute or whatever the situation is. for me that would just leave a sour taste and the revelation would just have me nope out feeling that it would most likely get worse from there, if you're gonna have that then what else are you likely to include (especially the way the comments describe it happening of sleeping with her, not knowing what she does meaning that she's hiding the fact, and then seeing her come out of a love hotel with some other guy)
especially if what I read about 2 other (vanilla) love interests being removed to accommodate her story is true then it seems likely the story is going to go downhill rather than improve
the main thing to me is how it unfolds, if she intentionally kept you at arms length because of her situation, then it wouldn't be ntr but if she let you close without letting you know then she is intentionally cucking you, whether she wanted to, didn't care, or felt forced to
even if I've misunderstood the depth of mc's relationship with her and it's somehow just a hook-up, it feels off because if she sleeps with the mc without whatever her usual situation involves then it means she sees something special about the mc in which case it doesn't make sense as just a hook-up, and not telling him beforehand is uber mega uncool (aka ntr)
so as far as I can see your rant about it not being ntr is just wrong and you should just own up to what you've made rather than telling everyone it's not what it is, it may not be the focus but it exists and the fact that this very niche, and incredibly divisive genre is included at all should be mentioned, e.g. "this game contains elements of ntr but it is not the main focus, if you can't handle that then this game may not be for you" rather than the way you've currently done so
It's definitely a shaky situation he's created. Also you're comment made me curious enough to redownload and sift through her scenes to refresh my memory.
After redownloading and quickly sifting through some of her scenes. Especially the controversial one. I've discovered this:
The MC's relationship with her starts as a simple friendship, he's nice to her because she helped out his (nonbiological) sister and she doesn't know why as she's been bullied her whole life, mc discovers her dad is a piece of shit so he tells her she can stay the night at his apartment, the two are basically close friends at this point (There's not a single H-scene with her before this point either), she then interrogates the MC about why he's so nice to her, reveals she gets paid for sex because her dad doesn't work, she's paying the bills as well as paying for his severe alcoholism, THEN the H-scene option appears as she assumes the MC only cares about her for sex and tries to coax him into a one-night stand. No matter what you choose, a couple days later she walks out of a love hotel with a guy. Then the MC goes to see her situation for himself and also discovers that her mother died during childbirth.
So it at least gives you the option to say no to her which makes me think some of these people are exaggerating a bit because you DO know what she does before being given the option of having sex with her. Another point worth noting is that saying no to her advances gives you MORE POINTS with her than saying yes. In other words skipping the scene is "better" despite this being a porn game and everyone usually doing the opposite.
I also wouldn't say she keeps you at arms length but as close as you would keep a friend. Then randomly telling that friend a dark secret because you have no idea why they're nice to you.
It's still a very controversial choice to include it in an adult game knowing that EVERYONE hates NTR. I'm honestly just biding my time until the next update to her story so I can come to a conclusion on whether or not to dip out and forget about this game. But yeah, that's a slightly more accurate summary of this whole deal.
so if it's revealed beforehand then it's not as bad as everyone made it out to be and if it's clear that she doesn't trust you when the option comes up then it's not ntr, everyone made it seem like the reveal was a blindside and none of the "it's not ntr" crowd mentioned it (someone might have I was skimming for the most part there are alot of arguments, but if that's the case why was that not the goto defence rather than "but her story"?)
if mc knows everything and it's clear enough she doesn't trust you then it's the typical "saving a girl from forced/coerced prostitution" type story and not ntr, in which case I'll check it out, tho am curious about the supposed 2 characters removed so that she could be added, tho I have no idea if they were just proposed or if they were previously in the game and it was reworked
thanks for a coherent reply rather than most of what I read through trying to work out exactly what the whole thing was
The "2 characters removed" thing is referencing some patreon post a while ago saying something about Yuka (Mc's nonbiological sister) and Eri (Mc's ex) being moved to the side-cast. I believe it's just a rumor by the community that they were benched for Chika. Might end up being true though.
Not really removed just lowered in terms of priority and future scene count for some reason.
that's honestly a huge relive some the comments made it sound like the author benched 2 already established LIs to make room for Chika's story, which for me would have been a huge turn off for the game cause while I'm not a huge fan of Chika's story the other character definitely make up for it IMO
"if mc knows everything and it's clear enough she doesn't trust you then it's the typical "saving a girl from forced/coerced prostitution" type story and not ntr"
Nope. It's still NTR. But instead of being cucked, it's instead NeToRase.
no because the english use of the ntr tag is for when an anime/manga inspired media contains cuckoldry and you can't cuck someone when there is no relationship, sharing is generally preferred as opposed to netorase (which I've seen shortened to nts to make a distinction from ntr) since there's no confusion with ntr when that's the case and sharing requires a proper relationship, atleast fwb, otherwise it's either prostitution or a casual one off hookup neither of which would count as even sharing.
I would not count the relationship described as one close enough to consider sharing since she doesn't trust you, I might change that opinion once I actually get around to playing it
I will agree vanilla sounds like false advertising tho
There simply IS NO NTR! You might have realised that if you actually READ the story. And trust me, I personally know people like Chika and behind every single of them there is a tough story that brought them to the point of prostituting themselves! Who are you or I to judge them?
I'm not cooking anything. I simply enjoy the game without judging people. And, didn't even Jesus say: he who is without guilt shall throw the first stone? I'm no saint and I'm pretty sure, you ain't one either...
I have to say keep cooking this! I say dont listen to a single soul and keep up the hustle and make what you wanna make because this is refreshing and i see a bright future for this masterpeice in the making! I've never even left a comment before and have played 50+ avns. This was mandatory for me to let you know this is fire and excited to see where you take us! Keep it up G.💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm gonna be honest, after following all the drama for a while and looking at old posts, I'm beginning to have doubts? Lose hope? I guess "become disinterested in the game" is the right phrase here. It's cool you're trying to make some more nuanced/niche/unique characters, but uhh... That's gonna require some GOD-TIER writing. So good luck with that. Hope you can pull it off without somehow making it worse.
Also just wanna point out that Chika, kinda fits in with the whole "rescue girl" trope... Emphasis on "kinda" since that trope usually refers to homeless women/women with trauma and Chika is a step away from being homeless, there's currently not enough info to determine any trauma, and then there's.... "The Drama."
I also feel like you should find a way to write Yuka and Eri as main LI's... I mean MBML managed to find a way with some of the characters in it, so it is possible. Obviously they won't/probably won't be involved in all the criminal gang violence, but they could be emotional support for the MC or some shit? Idk, it just feels a bit cheap having them in that opening scene that basically foreshadows the MC's harem only to then announce they're no longer main LI's.
Anyways, I'm just gonna sit in the back and wait for 0.4, or whatever update continues Chika's story, before announcing my final verdict. So uhh, excuse me while I go do other things for a while... And I guess I'll be back at some point to play the update? Whenever it comes out. I don't really know what to say at the end here... So uhh... Good... Good luck... I guess? Try not to make it worse? Have fun with the GOD-TIER writing required to fix this?
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Here's my suggestion. I hope the protagonist can be more proactive. Make unexpected moves towards the heroines to make them feel flustered. Overall, the male - lead still seems too wooden.
Enjoying the game!
Will say, quibbles with a certain convo, cops would never let Vigilantes pass, they would likely go after them harder than other criminals.
Cops have to be the top thugs, it is basically their entire reason for existence, the state maintains a monopoly on violence, all violence, even criminal violence, is answerable to the state (as they maintain the right to stop it). This is only true if cops are the top of the civil violence food chain, if someone steps in and does the cops work, then all of the civilians would start asking reasonable questions like "why do the cops get so much funding" and "why can't we, do the cops job, but better with actual community interests in mind?".
So no, cops wouldn't let Vigilantes go because they get the work done, especially not flashy vigilantes that specifically do their work, cops would rather no one do their work, if they aren't doing it.
P.S: WHY THE FUCK IS THE JAPANESE GIRL IMPORTING A NISSAN FROM THE US, ITS A JAPANESE CAR.
i finish the game.. its good.. i love the story.. the music.. and the charater.. cant wait to next chapter.. i hope it didt take to loong.. cant wait to play..
Awesome game with great goofy humour.
Uh can someone help when I download the android vr it wont open and just hang up
I will
nottouch grassI really like this game the characters are good and I also like the background music haha.
Anyone here please tell me how do i unlock ayase's scenes? Ive repeated the game multiple times and just cant unlock it
The first ayase scene? If it is then you should have pick her do the cat pose when you have a first meeting with her then you can unlock all her scene
Just pick the best thing you should do with/to her if you will make a choice
Just asking. Is the main story/ LI's side stories finished, cause I don't want to start the game only to know later that I must wait for an update.
it's only up to version 0.3 and there's a whole rant about one character's story having alot more to it that you will see in later updates, I'd say it's a safe bet that it's not even close to finished
Welp.. that's upsetting. Thanks for info.
how to unlock the scene after drunk and wild?
okay so this looked interesting but all the ntr arguments had me needing more info, so I read the all the comments and replies that came up in a ctl+f search
from what I can tell you start developing a relationship with her and then find out that she is actively having sex with other guys, even if there is some sob story about her situation it is still 100% ntr and I'm not interested, even if she does stop being a prostitute or whatever the situation is. for me that would just leave a sour taste and the revelation would just have me nope out feeling that it would most likely get worse from there, if you're gonna have that then what else are you likely to include (especially the way the comments describe it happening of sleeping with her, not knowing what she does meaning that she's hiding the fact, and then seeing her come out of a love hotel with some other guy)
especially if what I read about 2 other (vanilla) love interests being removed to accommodate her story is true then it seems likely the story is going to go downhill rather than improve
the main thing to me is how it unfolds, if she intentionally kept you at arms length because of her situation, then it wouldn't be ntr but if she let you close without letting you know then she is intentionally cucking you, whether she wanted to, didn't care, or felt forced to
even if I've misunderstood the depth of mc's relationship with her and it's somehow just a hook-up, it feels off because if she sleeps with the mc without whatever her usual situation involves then it means she sees something special about the mc in which case it doesn't make sense as just a hook-up, and not telling him beforehand is uber mega uncool (aka ntr)
so as far as I can see your rant about it not being ntr is just wrong and you should just own up to what you've made rather than telling everyone it's not what it is, it may not be the focus but it exists and the fact that this very niche, and incredibly divisive genre is included at all should be mentioned, e.g. "this game contains elements of ntr but it is not the main focus, if you can't handle that then this game may not be for you" rather than the way you've currently done so
It's definitely a shaky situation he's created. Also you're comment made me curious enough to redownload and sift through her scenes to refresh my memory.
After redownloading and quickly sifting through some of her scenes. Especially the controversial one. I've discovered this:
The MC's relationship with her starts as a simple friendship, he's nice to her because she helped out his (nonbiological) sister and she doesn't know why as she's been bullied her whole life, mc discovers her dad is a piece of shit so he tells her she can stay the night at his apartment, the two are basically close friends at this point (There's not a single H-scene with her before this point either), she then interrogates the MC about why he's so nice to her, reveals she gets paid for sex because her dad doesn't work, she's paying the bills as well as paying for his severe alcoholism, THEN the H-scene option appears as she assumes the MC only cares about her for sex and tries to coax him into a one-night stand. No matter what you choose, a couple days later she walks out of a love hotel with a guy. Then the MC goes to see her situation for himself and also discovers that her mother died during childbirth.
So it at least gives you the option to say no to her which makes me think some of these people are exaggerating a bit because you DO know what she does before being given the option of having sex with her. Another point worth noting is that saying no to her advances gives you MORE POINTS with her than saying yes. In other words skipping the scene is "better" despite this being a porn game and everyone usually doing the opposite.
I also wouldn't say she keeps you at arms length but as close as you would keep a friend. Then randomly telling that friend a dark secret because you have no idea why they're nice to you.
It's still a very controversial choice to include it in an adult game knowing that EVERYONE hates NTR. I'm honestly just biding my time until the next update to her story so I can come to a conclusion on whether or not to dip out and forget about this game. But yeah, that's a slightly more accurate summary of this whole deal.
so if it's revealed beforehand then it's not as bad as everyone made it out to be and if it's clear that she doesn't trust you when the option comes up then it's not ntr, everyone made it seem like the reveal was a blindside and none of the "it's not ntr" crowd mentioned it (someone might have I was skimming for the most part there are alot of arguments, but if that's the case why was that not the goto defence rather than "but her story"?)
if mc knows everything and it's clear enough she doesn't trust you then it's the typical "saving a girl from forced/coerced prostitution" type story and not ntr, in which case I'll check it out, tho am curious about the supposed 2 characters removed so that she could be added, tho I have no idea if they were just proposed or if they were previously in the game and it was reworked
thanks for a coherent reply rather than most of what I read through trying to work out exactly what the whole thing was
No problem. I'm happy to help.
The "2 characters removed" thing is referencing some patreon post a while ago saying something about Yuka (Mc's nonbiological sister) and Eri (Mc's ex) being moved to the side-cast. I believe it's just a rumor by the community that they were benched for Chika. Might end up being true though.
Not really removed just lowered in terms of priority and future scene count for some reason.
that's honestly a huge relive some the comments made it sound like the author benched 2 already established LIs to make room for Chika's story, which for me would have been a huge turn off for the game cause while I'm not a huge fan of Chika's story the other character definitely make up for it IMO
"if mc knows everything and it's clear enough she doesn't trust you then it's the typical "saving a girl from forced/coerced prostitution" type story and not ntr"
Nope. It's still NTR. But instead of being cucked, it's instead NeToRase.
Which is an NTR tag. Which is still missing.
no because the english use of the ntr tag is for when an anime/manga inspired media contains cuckoldry and you can't cuck someone when there is no relationship, sharing is generally preferred as opposed to netorase (which I've seen shortened to nts to make a distinction from ntr) since there's no confusion with ntr when that's the case and sharing requires a proper relationship, atleast fwb, otherwise it's either prostitution or a casual one off hookup neither of which would count as even sharing.
I would not count the relationship described as one close enough to consider sharing since she doesn't trust you, I might change that opinion once I actually get around to playing it
I will agree vanilla sounds like false advertising tho
4 months later. And the NTR tags are still missing. Smh
There simply IS NO NTR! You might have realised that if you actually READ the story. And trust me, I personally know people like Chika and behind every single of them there is a tough story that brought them to the point of prostituting themselves! Who are you or I to judge them?
Is this game tagged as VANILLA harem?
Does it have prostitute LI?
Stop shitting on my plate and calling it a brownie. I'm not eating what you're cooking.
I'm not cooking anything. I simply enjoy the game without judging people. And, didn't even Jesus say: he who is without guilt shall throw the first stone? I'm no saint and I'm pretty sure, you ain't one either...
Where did i judge anyone?
Also give the definition of NTR.
you made me laugh with that brownie comment hahaha
单细胞生物就闭嘴 byd自由选项 不喜欢就别选那条线不就行 是你的脑子不支持你做其他线路吗孩子 做了又要嗷嗷叫 纠结牛魔妓女不妓女 你这种得拿机枪扫 放古代就得浸猪笼 你知道的 赞助是没有的 白嫖是一定的 白嫖还要指指点点孩子你这辈子有了
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我想看看有没有人提到0.3结尾小剧场的joss的游戏是什么，发现大伙都在讨论千佳，我认为在一个可选路线的免费H游里加入一个“可能"是“妓女"的角色是完全允许的，在我玩的某个游戏里，你甚至可以攻略女友的奶奶，我不认为这有什么问题，只是这不在我的癖好里，所以我没有选择与她建立恋爱关系。当然，合理表达意见和喜好是可以的，只是为什么要主动选择与自己不喜好的角色建立亲密关系然后把自己破防，在评论区到处出警呢。
所以有人知道0.3结尾的客串角色是哪个游戏的吗，谢谢各位
Any updates?
Please upvote this petition to change miharu's hair into this
Not that ugly ass ponytail
I have to say keep cooking this! I say dont listen to a single soul and keep up the hustle and make what you wanna make because this is refreshing and i see a bright future for this masterpeice in the making! I've never even left a comment before and have played 50+ avns. This was mandatory for me to let you know this is fire and excited to see where you take us! Keep it up G.💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm gonna be honest, after following all the drama for a while and looking at old posts, I'm beginning to have doubts? Lose hope? I guess "become disinterested in the game" is the right phrase here. It's cool you're trying to make some more nuanced/niche/unique characters, but uhh... That's gonna require some GOD-TIER writing. So good luck with that. Hope you can pull it off without somehow making it worse.
Also just wanna point out that Chika, kinda fits in with the whole "rescue girl" trope... Emphasis on "kinda" since that trope usually refers to homeless women/women with trauma and Chika is a step away from being homeless, there's currently not enough info to determine any trauma, and then there's.... "The Drama."
I also feel like you should find a way to write Yuka and Eri as main LI's... I mean MBML managed to find a way with some of the characters in it, so it is possible. Obviously they won't/probably won't be involved in all the criminal gang violence, but they could be emotional support for the MC or some shit? Idk, it just feels a bit cheap having them in that opening scene that basically foreshadows the MC's harem only to then announce they're no longer main LI's.
Anyways, I'm just gonna sit in the back and wait for 0.4, or whatever update continues Chika's story, before announcing my final verdict. So uhh, excuse me while I go do other things for a while... And I guess I'll be back at some point to play the update? Whenever it comes out. I don't really know what to say at the end here... So uhh... Good... Good luck... I guess? Try not to make it worse? Have fun with the GOD-TIER writing required to fix this?
Ehh, good enough.
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keep up! hope to have 0.4 soon, love all of them and u too KS